[12.15.10] - Ward of Lore Meeting Transcript

[Shixin]

12/15 19:50:19.265 Shixin looks up from his scrolls.n12/15 19:50:28.179 Shixin says: Ah, you're starting to arrive. Good!n12/15 19:50:34.791 Shixin says: Welcome, my friends.n12/15 19:51:43.672 Ishawa says: Oops!n12/15 19:51:49.527 Ishawa says: Heya guys!n12/15 19:52:03.208 Tylothas frowns at the dog on the table.n12/15 19:52:14.120 Shixin says: Greetings, Ishawa.n12/15 19:53:13.056 Shixin lowers his hood and taps his staff on the floor, making it disappear.n12/15 19:53:45.354 Ishawa: ((Changing a diaper, brb))n12/15 19:54:35.811 You chuckle at Peacebloom.n12/15 19:56:12.511 Ellérs says: *sigh*n12/15 19:57:37.615 Ellérs says: *sigh* I bothered a druid and now I get stuck like thisn12/15 19:57:48.861 Shixin says: A curse?n12/15 19:57:54.295 Ellérs says: Sort ofn12/15 19:58:00.917 Ellérs says: He Marked men12/15 19:58:20.739 Shixin says: I'm sure either Tylothas or myself would be happy to help with that.n12/15 19:58:38.720 Tylothas looks away to the side, prefering Ellers as a bush.n12/15 19:58:42.226 Ellérs says: I will look into thatn12/15 19:59:10.978 Shixin says: Greetings, Fair Lady Tarja.n12/15 19:59:11.253 Ishawa says: Let me try to help!n12/15 19:59:22.422 Ellérs says: OUCH!n12/15 19:59:28.466 Tarjà says: Shixie, Sire Rump Shaker. how have you been?n12/15 19:59:28.688 Ellérs says: THAT HURTS!n12/15 19:59:34.383 Ishawa says: Is it helping?n12/15 19:59:57.156 Ishawa examines her work.n12/15 19:59:58.021 Shixin groans and grins sheepishly at Tarja. n12/15 20:00:09.803 Ishawa says: Lets try something else, shall I?n12/15 20:00:26.417 Ishawa says: Hmmm...n12/15 20:00:32.850 Ishawa says: It seems n12/15 20:00:33.289 Ellérs says: Oi!n12/15 20:00:37.357 Ishawa says: I have no choicen12/15 20:00:37.613 Ellérs says: That hurtsn12/15 20:00:41.354 Ishawa says: Nothing else has workedn12/15 20:00:49.146 Ellérs says: Tarja little helpn12/15 20:00:49.280 Shixin says: I do believe he might be trying to kill you Ellers.n12/15 20:01:01.461 Ishawa fingers a button on her belt.n12/15 20:01:04.487 Tarjà says: is it me..or where these chairs..not built for elves..n12/15 20:01:11.510 Ishawa cheers at Ellérs!n12/15 20:01:11.638 Ellérs says: OUCH!n12/15 20:01:18.446 Ishawa says: It worked!n12/15 20:01:23.095 Ishawa was happy to help Ellérs.n12/15 20:01:24.942 Shixin says: No, I don't think there were, my lady.n12/15 20:01:25.940 Ellérs says: THAT HURT!n12/15 20:01:34.823 Ishawa says: Your welcome for my service!n12/15 20:01:37.901 Ishawa says: Anytime!!n12/15 20:01:40.305 Ellérs brushs the soot offn12/15 20:01:41.396 Ishawa giggles at Ellérs.n12/15 20:01:49.935 Tarjà says: Feeling rather.....short....n12/15 20:02:12.549 Ishawa says: Hehe, you look small in that Tarj!n12/15 20:02:17.692 Ishawa says: Want help too?n12/15 20:02:21.292 Shixin says: Well, let's get underway, shall we?n12/15 20:02:44.796 Shixin: Ok, let's try to keep IC in /s and ooc in /r pls?n12/15 20:02:54.820 Ishawa: Mhmmn12/15 20:03:37.020 Shixin: You may or may not have noticed, but no one in the guild bears the Lore tag in their notes.n12/15 20:04:13.511 Shixin: I wanted to address that right up front in case any has noticed loln12/15 20:04:56.479 Shixin: But, since no one has noticed, let's go ahead and start at the beginning.n12/15 20:06:03.436 Shixin: I have been looking to make some changes to Lore.n12/15 20:06:19.473 Shixin: Stuff that will help us create more events, stories, etcn12/15 20:06:36.860 Saintdis: Interestingn12/15 20:06:41.392 Shixin: I also have been keeping in mind our new approach to the Wards.n12/15 20:07:12.506 Shixin: But I want to ask a question first. Please feel free to voice your opinions!n12/15 20:07:33.116 Shixin: How do each of you feel about the state of RP in Nyx?n12/15 20:08:25.255 Ishawa: It seems pretty rampant still. True people are focused on new content right now, which distracts everyone from everything, n12/15 20:08:26.337 Saintdis: No one seems very serious about it n12/15 20:08:45.585 Ishawa: but some people are very good about it, and do it constantlyn12/15 20:08:48.240 Locust: needs more improvement....something that gets everyone into itn12/15 20:09:10.278 Shixin: Ellers? Tarja?n12/15 20:09:44.665 Ellérs: I Don't know, I enjoy the Rp we have and it looks from my point of veiw very well done and as Ish said rampentn12/15 20:10:29.222 Shixin: Good! Excellent points, all. Now, what do each of you think of, specifically, when you think of Nyx RP?n12/15 20:10:45.099 Ishawa: Guildchat RP, bar nightsn12/15 20:10:48.279 Tylothas: I can't speak on the way things "once were" but I've noticed the RP trend: Initiation interviews, and bar night are all I'm really seeing. The last big thing was w/ Lady Nyx's summoning, right?n12/15 20:10:50.809 Tarjà: You know, I do it when I can...we still do the bar thing, though it isn't a nyx only thing. We've even brought in other guilds upon it..n12/15 20:11:47.306 Tarjà: Guild chat rp, is a bit, comical of late, with the whimsical characters that some have rolled (goblins) but I think it'll pass and the more serious will come out once the new wears off..n12/15 20:11:47.474 Saintdis: I agree with Tylothas, a majority of the rp I've seen is done through the stone-which is unfortunate.n12/15 20:12:05.343 Shixin: That's right, Ty, the last big event was the Summoningn12/15 20:12:17.581 Locust: i think we need more rp events...more big events!n12/15 20:12:32.548 Tarjà: Winterviel is here, perhaps we should do a christmasy party?n12/15 20:12:44.122 Shixin: Mhmmn12/15 20:12:51.735 Ishawa: I agree with that. Right now we have a lot of little RP, we need more guildwide and visible RPn12/15 20:12:59.372 Ishawa: visible as in visible to other peoplen12/15 20:13:46.369 Shixin: These are all things that I have struggled with myself. More events, more RP, more interest as a whole.n12/15 20:13:51.727 Locust: winterviel party has been done before...thats a given...n12/15 20:14:08.451 Tarjà: maybe it's time, we give it a nyx flare?n12/15 20:14:15.467 Tarjà: *grins*n12/15 20:14:21.929 Saintdis: Well, I think you might look at the problem another way-as I see it?n12/15 20:14:26.708 Shixin: And it's easily done.n12/15 20:14:36.985 Shixin: Go on Saintn12/15 20:15:37.846 Saintdis: Well the work put into events, their size, and their frequency aren't the problem, at least to me. I fell that when I go to an event there's isn't much for me personally to do, especially as a member who doesn't have the connections everyone else hasn12/15 20:15:53.901 Saintdis: For a lot of the events I've been to it's kind of go where you're told, and watch.n12/15 20:16:19.723 You nod at Saintdis.n12/15 20:16:29.784 Saintdis: Even at bar nights it hard to speak to the people who have well connected ties, they are busy speaking to eachother,n12/15 20:16:57.736 Tylothas: And they're not terribly exciting.n12/15 20:17:02.735 Ishawa: So maybe we need to come up with events that are more involvingn12/15 20:17:06.173 Locust: one of the best events i went to was the one where one of the members had a wedding with the dwarf...we where all world pvp and rp it all outn12/15 20:17:18.249 Saintdis: I think I voice this problem in my bid for advancement, no one really asks for opinions or thoughts there, we just kind of...listen to pre-planned speaches, and nod.n12/15 20:17:30.161 Saintdis: That was a good even locustn12/15 20:17:35.083 Shixin: Well, Bar Night is a chance for people from many different guilds to just get together and chatn12/15 20:17:43.724 Tarjà: I've noticed this as well. Shix, maybe we can hold a get to know you meeting, maybe make it with games..n12/15 20:18:13.976 Tylothas: I never heard of Nyx, personally, until I came across a list of RP guilds on the server. Nyx's reputation (aside from wpvp >.>) is a RP guild that is successful in other areas as well. The way the guild site is laid out, and the guild structure in -n12/15 20:18:53.214 Saintdis whspers to his demonn12/15 20:18:54.886 Tylothas: ^general tell me that Nyx is just a big bag of RP events, you know? If we look at current events lore-wise, what is Nyx doing about all this?n12/15 20:18:55.109 Ellérs: i need a brbn12/15 20:19:25.453 You nod at Tylothas.n12/15 20:19:29.873 Tylothas: This expansion has delivered us epic news. This isn't just the lich king in his throneroom. There is a big dragon flying around killing people, and tons of things are happening at once.n12/15 20:19:48.442 Warburn: i feared people would feel that way Saint, and the others. We need to offer more events that are more "open ended" but either way it's up to every participant to include themselves and really participate.n12/15 20:20:01.041 Tarjà: we used to have events on every day of the week. But, what alot of people don't know, is alot of those events, were player made. anyone, no matter rank, has the right to have them..all they need to do, is contact an officer to pu--n12/15 20:20:14.465 Tarjà: put it up on the calander for them, I'm not sure, everyone knows this thoughn12/15 20:20:41.540 Tylothas: Look at what's happening between the Horde and Alliance. It is more aggressive than ever. Aside from wpvp, we don't really engage in these things.n12/15 20:20:50.763 Saintdis: I understand this, and I know people not wanting to get involved and hold up their end is a bothersome problem. But people do sometimes try to put themselves outthere-using myself as an example-and people just kind of look at you like you spoke out of n12/15 20:20:54.320 Ishawa: Just looking at Ashenvale shows thatn12/15 20:21:03.715 Saintdis: place, some don't even acknowledge your character spoke.n12/15 20:21:27.250 Locust: ive played rpg games before...i even play D&D with the books and once a week meetings...we need to make rpg quest for the guild...story events..n12/15 20:21:44.974 Shixin: ok, we are getting into the realm of two different topics... n12/15 20:21:49.254 Tylothas: Maybe some people are waiting on the more important characters to speak, and they'll just sit idle and nod? Nobody wants to be a Mary-Sue, and I think it is that fear that prevents many of us from interacting in meaningful ways.n12/15 20:22:06.171 Shixin: one being inclusion in events, and the other being the events themselves.n12/15 20:22:27.051 Ellérs: back sorryn12/15 20:22:35.328 Saintdis: My last comment was a reply to warburn, my apologies n12/15 20:22:37.754 Warburn: in defense of the "big events you just go stand and watch" what we were trying to do is set up Lady Nyx up as a guild quest giver. and it's up to the players to complete those quests. Like the gathering materials to summon her. n12/15 20:22:51.823 Shixin: Let me tell you guys about my vision for the Ward of Loren12/15 20:22:58.589 Ishawa: Something to remember though, everyone is working on getting to level 85, exploring new content, etc. Events need to be things good enough and exciting enough to get people to take a break from levelling to partake of itn12/15 20:23:03.000 Tarjà nods at you.n12/15 20:23:12.743 Shixin: and then see where your ideas and thoughts can add to it.n12/15 20:23:20.601 Ishawa is listening!n12/15 20:23:38.841 Shixin: First off, what Ish said. RP and Lore is taking a back seat to leveling.n12/15 20:23:58.092 Shixin: You can look at this meeting and tell that.n12/15 20:24:21.344 Shixin: So, for the next week, there will be no 'official' RP eventsn12/15 20:24:44.201 Shixin: Bar Night doesn't count as that's not a Lore sponsored eventn12/15 20:24:59.175 Shixin: that is Tarja's personal attempt at creating good RPn12/15 20:25:08.305 Shixin: and very succesful, I might addn12/15 20:25:15.845 Ishawa agrees.n12/15 20:25:39.068 Locust: dont we know other guilds that rp? or even alli guilds?n12/15 20:25:39.394 Ishawa: Its definately a good place to "flesh out" your character's personalityn12/15 20:25:46.019 Shixin: Now, for the types of events that I see Lore doing...n12/15 20:25:59.331 Shixin: I'm going to get to that, Locn12/15 20:26:40.030 Shixin: First of all, we have small social events, where we get together with other guilds and just RPn12/15 20:26:50.135 Shixin: Bar Night is a good examplen12/15 20:27:12.128 Shixin: But there are other events, too, like a Winterveil partyn12/15 20:27:23.704 Shixin: Easy to plan and execute.n12/15 20:27:40.279 Tarjà: I think, it could be fun to do, but as it's been stated, it's been done before. n12/15 20:27:46.090 Ishawa: So?n12/15 20:27:53.002 Tarjà: I say, we put a nyx spin on it.n12/15 20:27:54.946 Shixin: The next type of event is a weekly, or bi-monthly eventn12/15 20:28:04.185 Shixin: Such as the story nightn12/15 20:28:09.372 Tarjà nods at you.n12/15 20:28:53.714 Shixin: These types of events will have the backing of the guild, and will have several aspects we haven't done veforen12/15 20:28:57.443 Shixin: zbeforen12/15 20:29:00.455 Shixin: loln12/15 20:29:18.643 Shixin: Such as promoting them on the realm forumsn12/15 20:29:39.208 Shixin: and giving awards, such as an award for best story at story nightn12/15 20:30:10.797 Shixin: And then there will be the large scale production events that carry the story of the guild furthern12/15 20:30:17.064 Locust: what about another tournament..????e veryone has somewhat low gear...n12/15 20:30:50.979 Shixin: the important parts of these large events are that they a) interact with the current game Loren12/15 20:31:08.669 Shixin: A good idea, Loc, hang on to that for a minn12/15 20:31:45.864 Shixin: b) give us an opportunity to showcase the best RP wow has to offern12/15 20:32:15.692 Shixin: c) give us the chance to interact with Alliance in an RP-PvP fashionn12/15 20:32:43.741 Locust: O_O I like c)n12/15 20:32:44.562 Shixin: I want these large scale events to almost always incorporate some kind of activityn12/15 20:33:14.101 Shixin: No more sitting around watching a play unfold, or at least, not completelyn12/15 20:33:29.025 Shixin: I mean, there HAS to be dialog to set the stagen12/15 20:33:44.030 Shixin: but it should always be pointing us to ACTIONn12/15 20:34:09.377 Shixin: like the quiet scene in a movie just before the monster JUMPS out of the closetn12/15 20:34:17.008 Shixin: hehen12/15 20:34:35.281 Shixin: How am I doing so far?n12/15 20:34:44.601 Saintdis: Very melodramatic :Pn12/15 20:34:56.048 Shixin: hehe I'll take it.n12/15 20:35:03.283 Shixin: everyone with me so far?n12/15 20:35:13.579 Tarjà: I still want to do the week long, event we discussed shix, it'd be good to run by everyone here, and get feed back from them.n12/15 20:35:16.210 Ishawa: yan12/15 20:35:17.034 Locust: yupn12/15 20:35:31.257 Shixin: Absolutely, T, and we will.n12/15 20:35:48.334 Shixin: Now, these events are not easyn12/15 20:36:10.764 Shixin: they take planning, timing, and most of all, dedication from the person or people carrying them outn12/15 20:36:39.367 Shixin: To that end, and given the new structure posed by Warburn and the senior officersn12/15 20:36:52.405 Shixin: I am restructuring the Ward of Loren12/15 20:37:18.530 Shixin: Per the officers decisions, Wards will no longer have "members"n12/15 20:37:34.961 Shixin: Rather, EVERY guildie will be a membern12/15 20:37:41.823 Shixin: of every wardn12/15 20:37:47.606 Saintdis: logicaln12/15 20:38:11.238 Shixin: But, each ward still has to be manned for organizational and planning purposesn12/15 20:38:25.911 Shixin: So, each Ward will consist of it's officersn12/15 20:38:31.885 Shixin: and thats alln12/15 20:38:35.613 Shixin: make sense?n12/15 20:38:51.065 Ishawa: Weve been fired! jkn12/15 20:38:57.239 Saintdis: Somewhatn12/15 20:39:00.217 Shixin: lol, sort of.n12/15 20:39:17.438 Saintdis: So will interaction in the wards be compulsory?n12/15 20:39:23.984 Shixin: As I said at the top of the meeting, no one has a Lore tag in their notes anymoren12/15 20:39:36.400 Shixin: Absolutely not, Saintn12/15 20:39:43.731 Shixin: Recommendedn12/15 20:39:47.825 Shixin: Rewardedn12/15 20:39:55.645 Shixin: but not compulsoryn12/15 20:40:32.716 Saintdis: Have you said all that you had to say about this aspect of the change?n12/15 20:40:43.957 Shixin: Not quite.n12/15 20:40:47.734 Saintdis: I don't want to ask questions before you're finished explaining n12/15 20:40:53.059 Saintdis: ok, please carry on.n12/15 20:40:59.135 Shixin: that's ok, go ahead.n12/15 20:41:15.694 Shixin: taking questions on what I said so farn12/15 20:41:17.363 Jitsuko yells: SINBAD!!!!!!!n12/15 20:41:35.162 Saintdis: There's been a problem getting people to interact in the past, pushing a lot of work at the officers if I am not mistake, am I?n12/15 20:41:53.180 Shixin: Hmm, not quite dure what you mean?n12/15 20:42:55.965 Saintdis: Do you think dissolving distinct membership per ward will make is easier for people to be less involved in lore events, and planning than in the past?n12/15 20:43:33.305 Saintdis: Thus resulting in a larger work load for the officers, who are the only people left of distinction to each ward.n12/15 20:43:48.710 Shixin: Ah.. I see what you are getting at.n12/15 20:44:05.548 Shixin: Well, to be blunt, that's what was happening anyway.n12/15 20:44:10.472 Tylothas: If you were dedicated enough to attend lore events as a lore member, then it's assumed you'll still wish to be apart of the events. The reason members no longer have a ward, is because people were afraid of mixing it up.n12/15 20:44:32.803 Saintdis: I agree, and I think this will make is worse, I was asking if you agreed to that.n12/15 20:44:37.198 Tylothas: It was like.. choose which aspect of wow you like the best. pvp, rp, pve or.. being nice to people? (sorry g n n ).n12/15 20:44:39.340 Shixin: For the most part, only a bare few bothered with Lore events while the rest of the guild went on about it's businessn12/15 20:45:26.313 Shixin: nothing is ever going to change thatn12/15 20:45:42.313 Shixin: those interested in it will still be interestedn12/15 20:45:49.801 Tylothas: Why not incorporate rp into the other wards then? Have Tarja be kidnapped at the winter veil party, witha a note left behind.. search and find her in a cave surrounded by 20 alliance members.. that incentive enough for the pvpers.n12/15 20:46:07.233 Saintdis: I don't think that's the case, on either point personally.n12/15 20:46:24.931 Shixin: Go ahead Saintn12/15 20:46:31.106 Warburn: the reason of not having ward "membership" per se is to remove the notion of "groups" and cliques. we wanted people to feel more united. and to participate in everything, not just their own wards events.n12/15 20:46:35.129 Shixin: And that's a good idea Tylon12/15 20:47:25.698 Shixin: or to have people left out of events because they're not members of that wardn12/15 20:47:39.113 Warburn: and if our Lore buffs go and join pvp and pve events then maybe that way more "lore" would get incorportated there. but they point is we are a guild. and should be united, not divided.n12/15 20:48:01.526 Tylothas: I think that even without belonging to a ward, like-minded people will still want to do "their" thing. I've noticed a lot of apps that were essentially "I want to raid.. so I'll try rp" but since nothing is mandatory (not suggesting anything ever be),-n12/15 20:48:15.761 Locust: Im not in the Lore but i still wanted to come...n12/15 20:48:29.470 Tylothas: -people just elect not to do them? If you want to be a great arena player, why would you need to attend Ishawa's picnic? n12/15 20:48:59.994 Shixin: I think that's what Saint is concerned aboutn12/15 20:49:44.825 Tylothas: wouldn't it be up to Ward officers to give the incentive for people to attend?n12/15 20:50:15.191 Shixin: True enoughn12/15 20:50:28.631 Tylothas: Winter Veil Party Invitation; I suggest bringing pvp gear * -- That's all it would take without spoiling anything.n12/15 20:50:42.172 Shixin: mhmmn12/15 20:50:58.170 Ishawa: But what of those who don't pvp?n12/15 20:51:11.129 Shixin: Well, the whole event won't be pvpn12/15 20:51:14.701 Tylothas: rightn12/15 20:51:23.319 Shixin: otherwise it would be a War event loln12/15 20:51:26.126 Tylothas: there is the search and find aspect, and it -is- a part >.>n12/15 20:51:51.641 Ishawa: Maybe say pvp gear recommended, not required?n12/15 20:52:03.805 Tylothas: Of course.n12/15 20:52:05.937 Locust: why dont you run a tournament for the winter Veil party and then have the events go on during it with Tylothas plan....n12/15 20:52:22.035 Shixin: lol, well, that would depend on the event as to how to outfit yourselfn12/15 20:52:24.314 Locust: have the tournament ruined cause of the eventn12/15 20:52:49.409 Tylothas: That was just an example, not planning on hosting that >.>n12/15 20:53:07.824 Shixin: which brings me to the other part of thisn12/15 20:53:10.613 Locust: well then that add on could be a ex.n12/15 20:53:29.249 Shixin: the biggest reason I wanted to "clean house" as it were,n12/15 20:54:09.128 Shixin: is because we need to know that we can count on the people who DO have the Lore tag to plan and execute eventsn12/15 20:54:24.523 Shixin: If you are in Lore, you are responsiblen12/15 20:54:55.310 Shixin: So I will be looking for people to join Lore that WANT to put on eventsn12/15 20:55:19.510 Ishawa: /volunteersn12/15 20:55:23.769 Shixin: that have the time and get off on people getting a kick out of their eventn12/15 20:55:31.951 Tylothas: my 30 days isn't up yet >.>n12/15 20:55:46.290 Tarjà: If we let it be known, that it isn't just offciers, whom can hold events, that people just need to come to one, to have it thrown on the calander, we would have more...n12/15 20:55:56.245 Saintdis: I must leave in a few momentsn12/15 20:56:00.266 Locust: I got the time...n12/15 20:56:11.789 Ishawa: I have no life!n12/15 20:56:13.491 Tylothas: If you've got the money, honey, I've got the time.n12/15 20:56:13.940 Locust: hell i even play at workn12/15 20:56:15.951 Shixin: I'm not really talking about those kinds of event's Tarjan12/15 20:56:33.364 Shixin: anyone can plan an event if they wantn12/15 20:56:54.360 Shixin: I'm talking the big stuff that takes weeks to write plan and executen12/15 20:57:21.375 Shixin: And there will be others that will want to do thisn12/15 20:57:26.576 Warburn: you guys can ALWAYS just start a spontaneous get together in the world. no one needs to be an officer to invite people to RP. right? Shixin is talking about events that require some planning and coordination, I believe.n12/15 20:57:41.088 You nod at Warburn.n12/15 20:58:04.016 Tarjà: no one is trying to put any restrictions anywhere. All I'm saying, is alot of people, see those events, as officer only.n12/15 20:58:27.946 Tarjà: if it is known, that it is open, to others, whom wish to take the time, to sit down, plan it out, write it out, and fill others in, then they can.n12/15 20:58:43.858 Saintdis: *If I miss anything that has not been said, please mail it to me, I'd like to know*n12/15 20:59:18.839 Saintdis: Have a good evening everyone, see you in a few days.n12/15 20:59:22.190 Shixin: I'll be posting all of this on the forums, Saintn12/15 20:59:24.401 Ishawa: Maybe that should be posted in both the forum and the guild info tabn12/15 21:00:07.108 Shixin: Well, I want the large-scale guild events to be hosted by Loren12/15 21:00:20.784 Tarjà: These kind of events, are a big burden to carry. And alot of our members, have wonderful ideas, but view it, as something only officers can do. n12/15 21:00:22.298 Shixin: Especially if it affects the storyline of the guildn12/15 21:00:49.020 Shixin: If people want to plan those kinds of events, why wouldn't they be in Lore?n12/15 21:00:56.330 Tylothas: <--- I always thought along those lines.n12/15 21:01:19.127 Tylothas: Maybe people to do be a part of those events, but they also want to raid?n12/15 21:01:55.354 Shixin: Hey, I'm not going to stop raiding just because I'm NW for Loren12/15 21:02:06.813 Tylothas: The wards give structure, but it also leaves the impression of having a "specialty". n12/15 21:02:17.309 Shixin: Exactly! And it shouldn12/15 21:02:52.971 Shixin: Here's the deal on people outside of Lore planning big events...n12/15 21:03:23.982 Shixin: If we open it up to everyone, and nothing happens, people look at LORE and say...you're not doing your jobn12/15 21:04:16.377 Tylothas: It could just be my thinking along those lines, but I don't like having only one Ward that I'm dedicated to. That's like picking a spec at level 10 and not having the ability to respec. Sure, as a frost mage, I can cast fireball.. but is it effective?n12/15 21:05:02.167 Tylothas: shouldn't it be: "If you are looking for a pvp event lik rated bgs, ask a war officer. If you have an idea for a lore event, ask a lore officer for help. If you want to raid, ask the trials officers for help gearing out.n12/15 21:05:52.405 Tylothas: If everybody can make large-scale rp events, then what is the point in having a Lore Ward? Isn't Lore supposed to be -THE- guys you would want to go to for solid rp?n12/15 21:06:05.130 Shixin: Yes.n12/15 21:06:14.361 Tarjà: I had understood the way it worked, is that, a member could be in more then one ward. so long as they carried their weight, in them.n12/15 21:06:34.554 Shixin: True enough.n12/15 21:06:46.599 Tarjà: Some wards, demand more attention then others. but if a person can manage it.n12/15 21:07:01.720 Shixin: But if they are going to be a member of Lore, they will have responsibilities for the events.n12/15 21:07:08.843 Tylothas: This change in direction makes me think of members as students and Officers as teachers. We sign up for the classes we want, and can specialize how we want, but all classes (sorta-speak) are available to us.n12/15 21:07:41.289 Shixin: Haha, sort of, yes.n12/15 21:07:52.366 Shixin: A good analogyn12/15 21:08:34.829 Shixin: What I don't want happening is TWO Lore groups developingn12/15 21:09:02.027 Shixin: It will cause too much draman12/15 21:09:12.805 Wylair: Yeah that'n12/15 21:09:13.897 Ishawa: what do you mean by two groups?n12/15 21:09:14.904 Tylothas: I like the idea of members going to a Lore officer with their ideas for rp events, so that even if said member wishes to create the event, it will be with the backing of a lore officer.n12/15 21:09:19.067 Wylair: 'd be coutnerproductive at bestn12/15 21:09:59.652 Tylothas: I believe he doesn't want Tylo's alliance Barn Burning event going on at the same time as Tarja's swamp gater wrestling tournie >.> or what-have-you.n12/15 21:10:21.146 Shixin: that's one reason, yes.n12/15 21:10:38.910 Ishawa: ahn12/15 21:10:56.281 Shixin: also, we don't want two RP storylines causing a conflict in the guild's storylinen12/15 21:11:15.053 Ishawa: So how does advancement work now?n12/15 21:11:52.755 Shixin: Great question!n12/15 21:12:11.594 Shixin: Here's the shortest answer I can type lol...n12/15 21:12:13.283 Warburn: lol "swamp gator wresteling"n12/15 21:13:26.503 Shixin: Hang onn12/15 21:13:33.576 Shixin: typed it wrong loln12/15 21:14:17.354 Gorehorn: Good evening alln12/15 21:14:28.146 Warburn: hey Goren12/15 21:14:46.846 Shixin: Ok, as of right now, the only person in Lore is me as Nightwarder.n12/15 21:14:56.632 Shixin: plus, the Eldersn12/15 21:14:59.661 Tylothas stands up and begins pacing. His legs were cramping after sitting for so long.n12/15 21:15:18.325 Shixin: that were former officers: Gorehorn, Eyesore, Tasera,n12/15 21:15:28.825 Shixin: Dracmorda, and Swanthulan12/15 21:15:38.493 Ellérs cuddles up against Moonkin Hatchling.n12/15 21:15:57.213 Tylothas stretches... His nose wrinkles... he ponders.. 'what's that smell?' A quick glance toward Blue answers his unspoken question. Frowning, Tylo'thas heads back toward his eat.n12/15 21:16:01.210 Warburn: and me n12/15 21:16:09.625 Ishawa aims at Lil' Ragnaros.n12/15 21:16:19.793 Shixin: The Elders will not have any responsibilities in the new structure, they can come and go as they pleasen12/15 21:16:21.129 Gorehorn: As an Oracle your technically a member of all Wards are you not?n12/15 21:16:43.733 Ishawa: And yet none?n12/15 21:17:00.527 Ishawa: Kinda like the Amaryllin Seat or whatever its called in WoTn12/15 21:17:02.493 Wylair: So what are the requirements for joining the Ward?n12/15 21:17:12.144 You nod at Ishawa.n12/15 21:18:08.873 Ishawa sighs at Lil' Ragnaros.n12/15 21:18:11.399 Shixin: Rank in the WoL will use the same basic structure as the guild: to join a ward, you must be a Shade or higher. Promotion to Shade likely upon entry into Loren12/15 21:18:55.409 Shixin: To gain entry, we ask you simply host an event and post some RP on the forumsn12/15 21:19:02.404 Shixin: that's it!n12/15 21:19:10.575 Wylair: The Forums = Offficial or GUild?n12/15 21:19:16.177 Shixin: Guildn12/15 21:19:23.082 Gorehorn: right guild or realm forums?n12/15 21:19:26.350 Gorehorn: ahn12/15 21:19:34.644 Shixin: If you think it's good, post it on the realm forums too!n12/15 21:19:40.643 Tarjà: offical forums scare me..its to easy to get trolled on there and come out looking really bad.n12/15 21:19:46.630 Shixin: but it won't be required for entryn12/15 21:20:22.247 Gorehorn: Realm forums is a minefield to be sure, but if it is thought out and uses proper grammar you will reap far more reward than abuse there.n12/15 21:20:38.666 Ishawa: Ok, so what does membership to a ward mean now?n12/15 21:21:06.607 Shixin: Being a member of a ward means you are on your way to becoming an officer.n12/15 21:21:20.428 Eyesore: And, are all wards now for shades and above only?n12/15 21:21:28.103 Shixin: it also means you are part of the group responsible for nearly ALL of the guild RPn12/15 21:21:46.672 Shixin: I would defer to Warburn on that onen12/15 21:21:50.721 Gorehorn: I have a question on that Shixinn12/15 21:22:04.484 Shixin: go ahead Goren12/15 21:22:04.716 Gorehorn: After Warby's response of coursen12/15 21:22:24.660 Ishawa: Oh, so being a member of a ward is being a member of the committee that runs the RP? as well as being an officer aspirant?n12/15 21:22:35.279 Shixin: Yes!n12/15 21:22:40.472 Ishawa: Okn12/15 21:22:41.845 Wylair: And what daily responsibilities will Ward of Lore members have, it wasn't very clear cut beforen12/15 21:23:03.585 Ishawa: Is it still possible to have two characters dedicated to different wards?n12/15 21:23:17.475 Warburn: defer to me about whether wards are for shades and above?n12/15 21:23:24.655 Gorehorn: Is it the responibility of the Ward of Lore to also DEFINE Nyxian lore or primarily to instigate and inspire it?n12/15 21:23:49.605 Shixin: If you are in the Ward of Lore, you will be privy to the behind-the-scenes activity of coming up with the guild RP storyline. Your daily activities will be comprised of thatn12/15 21:24:14.324 Gorehorn: Yes Warburnn12/15 21:24:14.529 Shixin: Nyxian Lore, yes. All Nyxian RP? No.n12/15 21:24:32.283 Shixin: And Yes, Ishn12/15 21:24:49.029 Shixin: In fact, you can belong to as many wards as you think you can handlen12/15 21:24:57.995 Ishawa: Okn12/15 21:25:19.168 Warburn: i want to mention, that being a member of ward of Lore is different then being a member of War... each NWer is in charge of their ward, and will come up with what it means and entails to become a member.n12/15 21:25:20.482 Eyesore: Was curious, Warburn, as once you picked your ward when you joined, so wondered if shade was now required in all wards...I wonder a lot Oracle.n12/15 21:25:51.040 Ishawa: For the "entrance RP session", then, can I run something on Thoka to gain Ishawa entrance? Even though I want Thoka in lore? I have an idea on what I am gonna do, but it fits Thoka's char bettern12/15 21:26:38.910 Shixin: yes, Ish, that would be fine.n12/15 21:26:44.640 Ishawa: kkn12/15 21:26:49.223 Warburn: That has changed slightly. you join and are unwarded. and may then pick any ward upon becoming Shade. I beleive is what we agreed on. Personally I wanted to do away with Ward seperation of our members. but it seems that I was one of a few who thought so.n12/15 21:27:11.426 Wylair: Is shade status a character by character thing?n12/15 21:27:32.981 Shixin: You can also get promoted to Shade when you enter a Wardn12/15 21:27:49.388 Tarjà: Usually after...30 days I believe/n12/15 21:27:50.841 Ishawa: Its like I said earlier. Wards are now more like "comittees" that help the flow of the guild. Not everyone is part of a comittee, but th4ey can still benefit from themn12/15 21:28:07.055 Warburn: we are ALL members of Nyx. we all RP, and some love pve and pvp. you don't need to join a ward to participate in anything!n12/15 21:28:24.436 Shixin: That's it exactly, Ishawan12/15 21:28:30.705 Warburn: you join a ward if you want to help build it better, in Lore's case, run and plan events.n12/15 21:28:46.922 Ishawa: Like, the ward of Trials will be raid leaders and suchn12/15 21:28:56.340 Shixin: the ward is comprised of officers whose responsibility it is to write, plan, and promote eventsn12/15 21:29:04.301 Shixin: usually as a commiteen12/15 21:29:19.820 Shixin: But EVERYONE can participate if they wantn12/15 21:29:32.459 Mälevolent: what if we change our mains do the ranks change also, like my old main was dante and he is shadow rank, and this guy is still shade. or is that just how it is?n12/15 21:29:35.470 Shixin: and you don't HAVE to be a member of Lore to have an RP eventn12/15 21:29:39.927 Gorehorn: I personally admire any with the energy to try to solo create and manage an event. I also pity their fall.n12/15 21:29:56.459 Gorehorn: because it is so much more than anyone anticipates.n12/15 21:30:05.075 Ellérs says: *Sigh*n12/15 21:30:07.693 Ishawa: I think ranks are by account, not by charn12/15 21:30:12.929 Tarjà: they should share the same rank as the main, to avoid confusion, but sometimes, it's a bit hard to keep up.n12/15 21:30:17.651 Shixin: I think so toon12/15 21:30:26.334 Tarjà: if you have this issue, shoot me a whisper, and I'll fix it. n12/15 21:30:34.355 Shixin: Ooh, I have an idea on thatn12/15 21:30:51.636 Ishawa: Which reminds me... I didn't know it until someone pointed it out, but Thoka is a shadow, so I should get this char fixed toon12/15 21:31:06.253 Ishawa: I didn't know until someone else said i was n12/15 21:31:15.249 Warburn salutes Karg Skullgore with respect.n12/15 21:31:23.088 Shixin: If I have two characters, each going to be in a different Ward, I should have them be seperate ranksn12/15 21:31:36.342 Shixin: Shix will be a NW for Loren12/15 21:31:47.985 Eyesore: Due to rp, some have differnet ranks. My character is elderly, and being an elder fits, but my dk is a shade, new to his statusn12/15 21:31:53.078 Shixin: But Mahkarn, my tank will be a shade in Trialsn12/15 21:32:00.238 Shixin: Make sense?n12/15 21:32:31.701 Shixin: brb gotta turn the heat down loln12/15 21:32:31.907 Ishawa: They should maybe rank up out of Ephemeral together, but then higher than that is dependant on wardsn12/15 21:33:27.651 Warburn hails Kasath.n12/15 21:33:40.581 Shixin: So, what other questions? n12/15 21:34:20.433 Gorehorn: have any plans been initiated yet fir teh Nyx anniversary? This may not be the forum for that question..n12/15 21:34:32.745 Warburn: good idea Goren12/15 21:34:47.529 Shixin: Yes! Tarja?n12/15 21:35:30.577 Shixin: Tarj has a Great Idea for the Nyx Anniversaryn12/15 21:35:33.916 Wylair: And on that note I've always enjoyed Cross-faction Winter's Veil events.n12/15 21:35:44.238 Shixin: I was going to let her explain itn12/15 21:35:49.235 Tarjà: A week long event, promoteing Rp, and Unity within the guild, and any one whom has history with it, and everyone, in general.n12/15 21:36:10.834 Mälevolent gently pats Deathy.n12/15 21:36:17.217 Eyesore: A fmily reunion?n12/15 21:36:29.913 Eyesore: er, family...n12/15 21:36:37.418 Shixin: The forums has a function for mass emailing everyone who has ever sigend up for itn12/15 21:36:53.653 Tarjà: a circus/fair type thing. people come, enjoy being around others. with types of events such as Tarot card readings (I have an addon for this I can give it to anyone whos intrested in being a mystic)n12/15 21:36:54.339 Shixin: we will send emails to everyone announcing the eventn12/15 21:37:00.890 Tarjà: Tough man competionsn12/15 21:37:08.610 You nod at Tarjà.n12/15 21:37:10.076 Tarjà: I think shix, mentioned a cannon ball runn12/15 21:37:27.824 Shixin: Cannonball Run FTW!!n12/15 21:37:30.000 Ishawa: Artifact display? n12/15 21:37:42.026 Shixin: sure!n12/15 21:37:46.836 Tarjà: kissing booths, and yes, even that. Have the hunters shine, by lettting them set up petting boothsn12/15 21:38:22.212 Tarjà: Tough Man Competion = Set an item level restriction on Gear, and PvP in one of the arena's, Stream it on a site like http://www.livestream.com/ (like at sporting events, they always stream it on a bigger screen.)n12/15 21:38:44.057 Ishawa: I'll get to making fireworks!n12/15 21:38:49.603 Tarjà: Sideshows = Hunters can show off their odd and unique pets, give a back story upon them, or "Worlds shortest gnome" ..(yes, I'm cutting and pasteing :P))n12/15 21:38:56.825 Shixin: haha that would be perfect for people who cant be ingame at the timen12/15 21:39:23.920 Tarjà: - a tier-set fashion show...- Archery competition (highest DPS)n12/15 21:39:43.050 Wylair: GnomeTech is good with fireworks shows, maybe they'd be willing to assist if we're willing to ask?n12/15 21:40:00.042 Ishawa: GnomeTech?n12/15 21:40:01.971 Shixin: or you could just steal their secrets!n12/15 21:40:18.487 Ishawa: I'm a resident pyro on Ishee!n12/15 21:40:28.895 Tarjà: this, is not simply closed. ANYONE whom has an idea, for ANY event for this, is free to do it. if we can keep this going for a week, at a set time, every night, and make sure it's an uncontested zone such as shatt, allaince guildsn12/15 21:40:37.672 Wylair: Yeah they have GoblinTech now on the Horde siden12/15 21:40:40.187 Tarjà: can partake in this as well, and I think, many would love it.n12/15 21:40:46.090 Mälevolent: i have seen "goblintech" around are they like a off shoot of gnometech or just a seprate guild?n12/15 21:40:51.516 Tylothas: After the fireworks show, we could have a gnome punting competition. (highest dps wins =) ) ))n12/15 21:40:59.031 Shixin: absolutely, we'll need the help of the whole guild to make this workn12/15 21:41:07.466 Gorehorn: do we know how to contact any of teh Nyx founders?n12/15 21:41:10.155 Wylair: GoblinTech is GnomeTechn12/15 21:41:18.533 Mälevolent: figured n12/15 21:41:33.929 Tarjà: Exactly Shix, we need to do this as a guild, and what better way to celebrate unity, then putting an event together, as a whole?n12/15 21:41:46.125 Warburn: no way! didn't know about Goblin Tech... loln12/15 21:42:01.277 Shixin: well, aside from mass-mailing from the forums, I don't know how to contact any of the foundersn12/15 21:42:15.618 Wylair: Who are the founders exactly?n12/15 21:42:18.707 Warburn: great plans Tarja! n12/15 21:42:21.593 Tylothas: We should have each ward design a specific event that captures who they are >=)n12/15 21:42:36.071 Tarjà: love it ty!n12/15 21:42:43.896 Shixin: absolutely. It's a shame G&N has her...*cries*n12/15 21:42:58.586 Wylair cries on Deathy's shoulder.n12/15 21:42:59.077 Gorehorn: Warburn would know better than I, but I thought it might be nice to contact who we could and have them return as spirits of themselves and tell the tales of original Nyxn12/15 21:43:01.492 Tarjà: *throws a shoe at shix* I'm everywhere :Pn12/15 21:43:31.353 Shixin: That was exactly what I wanted to do, too Goren12/15 21:43:33.097 Warburn: when we have a date set and a flier... i'll spam it to all those old members i known12/15 21:43:40.560 Warburn: including the original foundersn12/15 21:43:48.936 Shixin: Let's set a date right now!n12/15 21:43:54.454 Gorehorn: Tomoyo may have some contacts as welln12/15 21:43:57.520 Tarjà: I dont know if you guys, have ever been to a county fair.n12/15 21:43:59.132 Warburn: tho keep in mind they are from NZ and likely won't be able to attend anything before midnightn12/15 21:44:16.890 Tylothas: I know where you're going with this Tarj... funnel cake.n12/15 21:44:23.918 Shixin: FUNNEL CAKE!n12/15 21:44:31.088 Tarjà: But here, each night, we have something different as the 'big event' and the last night, is when the biggest happens, so perhaps, them coming back, and telling their tells, could be the end event?n12/15 21:44:33.162 Mälevolent: what dates were you thinking of for this event?n12/15 21:44:39.184 Shixin: *dies from fried food overdose*n12/15 21:45:12.845 Wylair: Ooh, we could have food vendors using GryphonHeart or somethingn12/15 21:45:17.565 Shixin breaks a piece of Ellers off and munches hungrily.n12/15 21:45:33.681 Shixin: YES!n12/15 21:45:36.115 Tarjà: mhm. I think, haveing servers walking around, offering snacks and drinks, could give it flare as welln12/15 21:45:59.472 Wylair: Or food vendor booths oh boyn12/15 21:46:03.363 Shixin: which brings me to my last topic, and then we'll adjourn...n12/15 21:46:06.911 Tarjà: Wylair, is an awsome torch juggler.n12/15 21:46:18.792 Shixin: cause I'm sure ya'll would rather be questingn12/15 21:46:19.025 Wylair: Perhaps even use GryphonHeart for some not really in-game foods.n12/15 21:46:30.898 Warburn feeds his murlocn12/15 21:46:40.385 Tylothas: funnel cake?n12/15 21:46:48.825 Wylair: And yeah torch juggling, definitely, get a couple teams of jugglers to set up formations.n12/15 21:47:01.928 Shixin: if you are going to be a MEMBER of Lore, you will be required to have the Gryphonheart addons at least installedn12/15 21:47:12.905 Tylothas: what is that exactly? n12/15 21:47:22.548 Eyesore notices that Warburn is not much taller than his companion.n12/15 21:47:33.462 Shixin: Gryphonheart is a set of addons that let you creat items in gamen12/15 21:47:35.408 Wylair: Any other required Addons?n12/15 21:47:55.562 Shixin: it also lets you create Rep factions that you can gain or lose rep withn12/15 21:47:59.730 Tarjà: if you want to do tarot readings, I can give you an addon, for that.n12/15 21:48:22.123 Shixin: yes, every Lore member will have either MRP or FlagRSPn12/15 21:48:41.604 Wylair: Should we decide on those one way or the other, they aren't intercompatible anymoren12/15 21:48:48.390 Shixin: I would GREATLY APPRECIATE if all lore members would have Verisimilar as welln12/15 21:48:54.757 Warburn finds some bug food under his arm bracer and tosses it towards Fireflyn12/15 21:49:05.927 Tylothas: verisimilar?n12/15 21:49:13.202 Wylair: Okay, I have all three of them there requirements at least installed and ready to be enabled at a moments noticen12/15 21:49:15.592 Shixin: I don't care which, Wy, so long as we have onen12/15 21:49:32.396 Shixin: Verisimilar is an addon that lets you create quests in gamen12/15 21:49:38.466 Tylothas: That is cool.n12/15 21:49:46.179 Shixin: quests that can be given by exisiting NPCsn12/15 21:49:47.923 Wylair: Should lore members install both MyRolePlay and FlagRSP so they can see everyone's info?n12/15 21:50:08.217 Shixin: I'll test that out Wy. Want to make sure there are no conflictsn12/15 21:50:22.786 Wylair: Yeah there might be, is RSP still updated?n12/15 21:50:34.789 Shixin: Don't know, I use MRPn12/15 21:50:49.878 Tarjà: I think, both are compataible one more.n12/15 21:51:01.774 Shixin: OK, any questions?n12/15 21:51:04.683 Wylair: Last time I checked RSP was abandoned, but someone might have picked it upn12/15 21:51:18.248 Wylair: EDIT: Nvm looks like RSP has been picked upn12/15 21:51:29.183 Tarjà: They have improved My roleplay toons.n12/15 21:51:32.123 Tarjà: *tons n12/15 21:51:49.432 Shixin: By the way, it isn't required to have the addons to PARTICIPATE in Lore eventsn12/15 21:52:04.690 Shixin: only members of the ward will be requiredn12/15 21:52:10.587 Tylothas: Do all lore meetings go along like this?n12/15 21:52:21.566 Shixin: haha sort ofn12/15 21:52:29.826 Shixin: this one is longer than usualn12/15 21:52:39.309 Shixin: a lot to covern12/15 21:53:03.274 Wylair: But that's to be expected with an entire retooling of how a ward works.n12/15 21:53:17.714 Shixin: Finally, anyone interested in joining the Ward of Lore, please check out this thread on the guild forums:n12/15 21:53:29.226 Shixin: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=6790&start=0n12/15 21:54:00.453 Tarjà says: Ellers..this is not the time to Veg outn12/15 21:54:12.421 Shixin: If you can't hyperlink out of chat, just look for the Handbook thread in the Ward of Lore forumsn12/15 21:54:12.648 Ellérs says: thank you Tarjan12/15 21:54:18.089 Tarjà nods at Ellérs.n12/15 21:54:23.855 Ellérs says: I can't actually control thatn12/15 21:54:46.075 Tarjà says: What did you do?n12/15 21:54:56.557 Tarjà glares angrily at Ellérs.n12/15 21:54:57.173 Shixin: SO! That's it!n12/15 21:54:58.913 Ellérs says: I kinda bothered a Druidn12/15 21:55:03.089 Ellérs says: she marked men12/15 21:55:05.201 Shixin: Thank you alll for coming!n12/15 21:55:07.610 Ellérs says: with more than her clawsn12/15 21:55:13.842 Tarjà says: talk to another druid, to um...n12/15 21:55:15.703 Tarjà says: Fix youn12/15 21:55:20.281 Wylair: Once my life becomes less busy again I'll definitely look into Lore againn12/15 21:55:23.280 Shixin: Please check out the new Ward of Lore forumsn12/15 21:55:25.569 Ellérs says: Eventuallyn12/15 21:55:33.310 Ishawa says: Something to be fixed?n12/15 21:55:40.801 Shixin: And let me know if you have any ideas, questions, w/en12/15 21:55:42.576 Tarjà says: mhm. Ellersn12/15 21:55:45.482 Mälevolent: (( imam go bg, ty all for having me)n12/15 21:56:01.894 Tarjà: Thanks for coming danten12/15 21:56:02.090 Ishawa fingers a button on her gogglesn12/15 21:56:07.227 Ishawa says: Lets seen12/15 21:56:09.875 Locust falls asleep. Zzzzzzz.n12/15 21:56:12.376 Ellérs says: NOn12/15 21:56:15.956 Ellérs says: BAD TAURENn12/15 21:56:24.960 Ishawa says: That fix it?n12/15 21:56:29.331 Ellérs says: Yesn12/15 21:56:33.469 Ellérs says: I'm fine nown12/15 21:56:36.229 Ishawa bows before Ellérs.n12/15 21:56:40.127 Ishawa was happy to help Ellérs.n12/15 21:57:00.092 Tylothas: Ah, that's it?n12/15 21:57:06.124 Shixin: Mhmmn12/15 21:57:08.827 Shixin: thanks!

[Desias Stormfalcon]

I really hate having missed this meeting, seeing so much information that was covered. I'll do what I can to attend the next one.

[Wylair]

Tarja I see you discussed a Winter's Veil party before I arrived, which is something I've been wanting to do as well since I helped put together some of them for GnomeTech, Pack Spirit, and Farstriders back in 2007 and 2008. nnPerhaps we can share some ideas with each other or help each other in this endeavor?nnAlso on the note of the Tough Man competition and similar things that I saw, i was reading about the new War Games feature in WoW which could be used to do some interesting things for sure.

[Tarja]

Tarja I see you discussed a Winter's Veil party before I arrived, which is something I've been wanting to do as well since I helped put together some of them for GnomeTech, Pack Spirit, and Farstriders back in 2007 and 2008. nnPerhaps we can share some ideas with each other or help each other in this endeavor?nnAlso on the note of the Tough Man competition and similar things that I saw, i was reading about the new War Games feature in WoW which could be used to do some interesting things for sure.

nnI merely threw it out. I have no ideas for the party itself, and right now, have my hands full with grinding out professions so I can keep our people in flasks/foods. If you want to bounce ideas off of me, I'd love to hear them, however, I merely mentioned it. Run with it if you want